Wednesday, October 15, 2014

False statement of Kiyozawa Manshi

(please read the two updates bellow!)

“It is not because of their existence that we believe in gods and Buddhas, but rather, they exist because we believe in them.” (Kiyozawa Manshi, Otani Daigaku 2003: 284)

This is false, completely false! Amida Buddha and His Pure Land exist independently of our faith in them or our doubt about them. If Amida exists just because we believe in Him, then He is nothing more than an imagination or a fictional character – exactly what false modernist teachers want you to believe. And Kiyozawa Manshi is just another exotic guy they are using for their goal.
Please be aware! Many false teachers have nice and beautiful sayings in their literary work, which taken separately might sound ok, but if you look carefully you will certainly find grave errors like the above. And one such sentence should be enough for you to simply stay away or do not recommend such teachers to others, especially if they are beginners and not yet established in faith.

Many reacted angrily at this small post which was originally placed on my Facebook page, saying that this passage from Manshi, which is wrong, does not compromise his entire work. But my opinion is very clear - not only that this statement of Manshi is wrong, but it is a horror! Nowhere in our sacred texts can we find such a negation of the existence of Amida Buddha. I am really not surprised at all, that many nowadays false teachers, like Shigaraki, Unno and Bloom are great fans of Manshi... 

I recently saw that there is also a small discussion on Kiyozawa Manshi on the trueshinbuddhism online group. You might wish to check it out:

Update 2:

In the photo bellow (click on it to enlarge it), you can see a fragment from the heretical teachings of Kiyozawa Manshi as expressed by his followers, later organized into the Dobokai movement. This fragment is taken from this link (click here). As you can see, its the same old story about denying that birth in the Pure Land takes place after death, thus clearly contradicting Honen, Shinran and Rennyo ...

2 comentarii:

Jeremiah Mullica said...

I also believe that Amida Buddha is a real and living Buddha and the Pureland is a real place. One of the reasons I believe that so much is because Shakymuni Buddha himself confirmed that right in the Sutras. If we can't trust and believe what a fully enlightened Buddha says,then who can we believe? Namo Amida Butsu

Josho Adrian Cirlea said...

Indeed, Jeremiah, it is as you said. We should simply accept in faith, Shakyamuni's teaching on Amida Buddha and His Pure Land from the Larger Sutra.
Namo Amida Butsu